Qwerty,
Must admit I've never heard Candy Man played on the radio before, even Radio 2. That's one to open your car window and krank up the volume to in stationary traffic!
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Worst song you've ever heard.
by FlyingHighNow inwhat is the worst song you've ever heard?
you know, the song that grated on your nerves and made you want to scream if you ever heard it again?
if it's a kingdom song please tell and please tell us what popular song you detested.
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Worst song you've ever heard.
by FlyingHighNow inwhat is the worst song you've ever heard?
you know, the song that grated on your nerves and made you want to scream if you ever heard it again?
if it's a kingdom song please tell and please tell us what popular song you detested.
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Qwerty,
You can't include songs by Rolf. And songs from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory are out as well!! Next you'll be telling us 'Tie me Kangaroo Down Sport' is a bad song.
What about 'Everything I do, I do it for you'. Now THAT is truly awful.
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spiritwalker,
Do you mean only 19 Americans remember 1776???
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bible code II
by erik ini was just curious as to whether or not anyone has read or taken a look at this book regarding bible prophesy.
if you have, please let me know what you think.
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Don't know if you can get BBC or not but on the Horizon programme this Thursday is about this subject.
Horizon
Thu 20 Nov, 21:00 - 21:50
BBC Two
Bible Code: Journalist Michael Drosnin has become a best selling author with his claims that he can see into the future using a 3000 year old code hidden in the Bible. And what he sees is horrific.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/horizon/
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Freeminds Arcticle: "Do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe the Bible?"
by hooberus inthe following is an interesting new arcticle on the freeminds site:.
http://www.geocities.com/thewatchtowerstudy/bible.htm.
it gives interesting information on jw bible interpretation gymnastics regarding verses on jesus, showing that the wt in effect rejects the plain teachings of the bible regarding jesus.
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City Fan
hooberus:
the WT in effect rejects the plain teachings of the Bible regarding Jesus.
Most of the bible is in fact obscure and open to interpretation. Your 'plain teachings' about Jesus are anything but, which is why there are so many different doctrines.
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What does 666 in the book of Revelation really mean?
by JH inrevelation 13:18 here is wisdom.
let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred threescore and six.
so, does anybody have understanding here?
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My view is that Babylon the Great was Rome. Rev 17:18 says 'The woman (Babylon) you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth' and Rev 17:9 says 'the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated'. It seems obvious to me that the great city on seven mountains at the time was Rome.
The beast was Emperor Nero. The seven heads of the beast were 'seven kings' (Rev 17:9) 'of whom five have fallen, one is living, and the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain only a little while.' (Rev 17:10). The first five Caesars were Julius Caesar, Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula and Claudius. Then came the sixth, Nero, 'one is living' and after Nero's suicide came Galba who only ruled for a few months ('only a little while').
Rev 13:14 says 'the beast ... had been wounded by the sword and yet lived;'. When Revelation was written the Emperor Domitian ruled Rome. Nero had killed himself with a sword but Domitian was viewed as a re-incarnation of Nero and was the first Emperor to deify himself, giving himself the title 'Lord and God'.
In Rome Gematria puzzles were used to represent letters as numbers. If you look at a reference to Rev 13:18 then you see that some manuscripts read '616'. 666 was Nero Caesar spelled in Hebrew and 616 was Nero Caesar spelled in Latin.
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The Book of the Law!!
by peacefulpete inremember the story when josiah orders the temple restored after hundreds of years of neglect and miraculously the book of the law was found by the high priest hilkiah.
he hands it to the king who reads it aloud and tears his clothes and laments the sins of isreael.
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Pete,
Basically, how do you introduce new holy writings to a nation which have supposedly been written centuries earlier by ancient patriarchs. Simple. You 'discover' them.
I first came across this event in the bible when I read 'The Bible Unearthed' by Finkelstein and Silberman. Page 276 says about the 'book of the covenant':
'Josiah's messianic role arose from the theology of a new religious movement that ultimately produced the core documents of the bible - chief among them, a book of the Law, discovered during renovations to the Jerusalem Temple in 622 BCE, the eighteenth year of Josiah's reign. That book, identified by most scholars as an original form of the book of Deuteronomy, sparked a revolution in ritual and a complete reformulation of Israelite identity. It contained the central features of biblical monotheism.'
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Did Daniel predict the Roman Empire?
by City Fan in.
why can i never cut and paste from word without a quarter of the content going missing?.
aaarrgghhhh!.
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Pete,
Alexander's generals and administrators were known as the Diadochi. They included Perdiccas, Antipater, Craterus, Eumenes, Antigonas, Ptolemy, Seleucus and Lysimachus. After many years of conflict including the battles of Ipsus 301BC and Corupedion 281BC, the empire was divided between the descendants of Ptolemy, Seleucus and Antigonus.
As you point out, it is wrong to say that the Macedonian Empire was split between Alexander's four generals.
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Did Daniel predict the Roman Empire?
by City Fan in.
why can i never cut and paste from word without a quarter of the content going missing?.
aaarrgghhhh!.
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Navigator, you're right about Antiochus IV Epiphanes. In his attack on Jerusalem he is reported to have killed 80,000 Jews and also deported another 40,000.
The first time I researched the Syrian Wars and the Maccabean revolt I was amazed at how precisely Daniel chapter 11 documents this period. How many hours have we all spent studying Watchtower material on this subject. The King of the North and how it has changed its identity over the years ending with Germany then the Soviet world power. What a waste of time. That prophecy ends with Antiochus IV and has no other meaning.
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Did Daniel predict the Roman Empire?
by City Fan in.
why can i never cut and paste from word without a quarter of the content going missing?.
aaarrgghhhh!.
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(final part!)
The last gentile power mentioned by name in Daniel is Greece (10:20) and not Rome. So we know the name of the last kingdom and it is now easy to name the second and third kingdoms. We then have this order:
The Babylonians - The Medes - The Persians - The Greeks
This list of kingdoms fits the descriptions in Daniel 2 and Daniel 7 much better than Babylon - Medo Persia - Greece - Rome. For example, Daniel 2:39 says that the second kingdom of silver would be 'inferior' to Babylon. If the second kingdom included Persia then this would definitely be wrong as the Persian Empire under Darius Hystaspes and Xerxes I was far greater than the Babylonian Empire. It was the third kingdom which would rule over over all the earth and certainly Persia under Xerxes ruled over most of the biblical world.
The fourth kingdom would be Greece which became a divided kingdom which was partly strong (iron) under the reigns of Ptolemy II Philadelphus (Egypt 285-246BC) and Antiochus III The Great (Seleucid 223-187BC) and was otherwise weak (clay). The Seleucid and Egyptian powers also had marriage alliances between each other (see Daniel 2:43).
So how do we re-interpret the traditional view of the third beast of Daniel 7. The leopard with four wings and four heads in end-time prophecy is said to represent the Greek and Macedonian Empire which was divided between the four generals of Alexander the Great. But the real identity of this beast is given at Daniel 11:2 which says: "And now I will show you the truth. Behold, three more kings shall arise out of Persia; and a fourth shall be far richer than all of them; and when he has become strong through his riches, he shall stir up against the kingdom of Greece."
The four kings of Persia after Darius the Mede were Cyrus, Cambyses II, Darius I Hystaspes, and Xerxes I. Xerxes attacked Greece and was finally defeated at Platea in 479BC. So the third beast with four heads represents the Persian Empire under its four great kings.
In fact every prophecy in Daniel is aimed specifically at one person, Antiochus IV Epiphanes, the Seleucid king who persecuted the Jews. He is the 'little horn' that appears out of the Greek Ram in Daniel chapter 8. He is the horn from the fourth beast in chapter 7 that makes war with the saints. He is the King of the North who 'takes away the continual burnt offering' in chapter 11. (see 1 Maccabees 1:57 which says "On the fifteenth day of the month of Casleu, in the hundred and forty-fifth year, king Antiochus set up the abominable idol of desolation upon the altar of God".)
The amount of detail about the Syrian wars given by Daniel in chapter 11 shows that the book itself was written sometime between the desecration of the temple by Antiochus Epiphanes in December 167BC and his death in 164BC. The book does not predict the Roman Empire and has nothing to do with our modern era. It is an apocalyptic book written during the Seleucid persecution and the Maccabean uprising. It is really a book of Greek history rather than a prophetic book of the future.
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